Re: [tsc-devel] RFC: Voting rules draft

Quintus | Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:31:45 UTC

Luiji Maryo <…i@u…> writes:
> The RFC looks fine, with the only thing I'd add is that calling it
> Democratic might be a misnomer. When only a select set of people are
> permitted to vote, it's really an Oligarchy, although we may suggest
> it's a Meritocratic Oligarchy since people are supposed to be selected
> based on their merit as determined by contributions as opposed to
> inheritance or anything of the sort.

How could you know! I was actually planning to make TSC project
leadership heriditary! ;-)

While you are probably correct from a terminology point of view, I have
the feeling that calling it “oligarchic” is not going to do us a favour
from the user’s point of view. Our decision model is still better than
the often seen dictatorship model, and I’d like to emphasise this by
phrasing the preamble accordingly. So we might step back from calling it
“democratic”, but we shouldn’t use a negatively connotated term such as
“oligarchy” instead. Maybe we can use “legitimated by the majority of
the people developing the project” or so. Maybe you want to suggest an
alternative wording of the preamble?

As I’ve outlined earlier in this thread, I’m not really happy with
giving *everyone* voting rights, because it is our limited free time
working power we put into this project. So if that was what you are
suggesting, I fear I cannot follow that. A purely democratic development
model is going to fall to the trolls, and I’m not going to spend my
free-time efforts on a troll mountain. Okay, slightly exaggerated, but
you get it.

DarkAceZ <…r@g…> wrote:
> Will these polls be available for non-members to see? We might want to keep
> in mind what they think while voting, if a majority of them lean towards
> one option.

The call for votes, containing voting options, is going to be publicly
available. The same goes for the voting result. As for the information
on who voted on which option, this is only available for open votes,
which is the default voting procedure, but every team member can request
a vote to be taken out covertly, in which case nobody (not even the team
members) are going to see who voted on which option; only the result
will be public.

Also, next time please send your message to the mailinglist and not to
me personally :-)

Valete,
Quintus

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