Re: [tsc-devel] RFC: Voting rules draft

Luiji Maryo | Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:40:49 UTC

And I realized you were saying someone else sent it to you personally.
So I could either feel bad about my current mistake, or feel great
about my lack of a previous mistake.

I'll choose to watch YouTube videos.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Luiji Maryo
<…i@u…> wrote:
> Okay, I'm definitely sending this to
> …l@l… If I'm not, then GMail is broken.
>
> I'd just call it Meritocracy and leave it at that.
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Quintus <…s@q…> wrote:
>> Luiji Maryo <…i@u…> writes:
>>> The RFC looks fine, with the only thing I'd add is that calling it
>>> Democratic might be a misnomer. When only a select set of people are
>>> permitted to vote, it's really an Oligarchy, although we may suggest
>>> it's a Meritocratic Oligarchy since people are supposed to be selected
>>> based on their merit as determined by contributions as opposed to
>>> inheritance or anything of the sort.
>>
>> How could you know! I was actually planning to make TSC project
>> leadership heriditary! ;-)
>>
>> While you are probably correct from a terminology point of view, I have
>> the feeling that calling it “oligarchic” is not going to do us a favour
>> from the user’s point of view. Our decision model is still better than
>> the often seen dictatorship model, and I’d like to emphasise this by
>> phrasing the preamble accordingly. So we might step back from calling it
>> “democratic”, but we shouldn’t use a negatively connotated term such as
>> “oligarchy” instead. Maybe we can use “legitimated by the majority of
>> the people developing the project” or so. Maybe you want to suggest an
>> alternative wording of the preamble?
>>
>> As I’ve outlined earlier in this thread, I’m not really happy with
>> giving *everyone* voting rights, because it is our limited free time
>> working power we put into this project. So if that was what you are
>> suggesting, I fear I cannot follow that. A purely democratic development
>> model is going to fall to the trolls, and I’m not going to spend my
>> free-time efforts on a troll mountain. Okay, slightly exaggerated, but
>> you get it.
>>
>> DarkAceZ <…r@g…> wrote:
>>> Will these polls be available for non-members to see? We might want to keep
>>> in mind what they think while voting, if a majority of them lean towards
>>> one option.
>>
>> The call for votes, containing voting options, is going to be publicly
>> available. The same goes for the voting result. As for the information
>> on who voted on which option, this is only available for open votes,
>> which is the default voting procedure, but every team member can request
>> a vote to be taken out covertly, in which case nobody (not even the team
>> members) are going to see who voted on which option; only the result
>> will be public.
>>
>> Also, next time please send your message to the mailinglist and not to
>> me personally :-)
>>
>> Valete,
>> Quintus
>>
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