[tsc-devel] Re: Server problems with systemd

Marvin Gülker | Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:29:32 UTC

Am 07. Juni 2018 um 08:14 Uhr -0500 schrieb Ryan Gonzalez:
> Question: how much is this Debian version dependent on sysvinit?

Debian 9 to my knowledge can be successfully run without systemd even
without resorting to Devuan. It requires just a little manual work. Most
systemd services in this version of Debian are effectively wrappers
around SysV init scripts. This is probably going to change with Debian
10.

> There's always CentOS 6, which uses that old kernel version but still gets
> security updates until 2020.

Yes, but just as the kernel is ancient, the rest is as well. Mailman 3
needs some new software, like Python 3 and a number of other libraries I
don't remember off the top of my head.

> If the company offers service to EU customers, shouldn't they already be
> GDPR-compliant?

I leave this question to xet7 to answer.

> I'd offer my VPS, but it's dirt cheap ($10/year) and randomly goes
> down...not really ideal...

I have my own KVM-based VPS that runs Debian 9 properly and could well
run everything we run on alexandria on it; there's probably no problem
resource-wise. It has 1 GiB of RAM (with 4 GiB Swap) and 28 GiB of free
space.

I'm paying for it and it is stable; the customer support I received from
First Root is excellent. The point why I don't do this currently is that
I wanted TSC to remain independant from my person. I will reconsider
this decision.

If I come to the conclusion that this is the best solution, I definitely
can't give the same level of access to it as with alexandria currently,
because I host other things on it, namely everything related to my
mother's business. I can't let anybody get near to that.

> In theory, depending on how much we directly use systemd, could we switch
> the main distro (e.g. to CentOS 6) but then throw up a Debian container
> inside it? That way the config could be nearly identical, but the part
> touching the kernel would be compatible.

That's basically the current situation. The host system at First Root
runs RHEL and alexandria is an OpenVZ container with Debian in it. Your
suggestion would trigger the exact same problem thus. Debian 9's systemd
simply wants some kernel features only newer kernels have.

Marvin

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